do keto people just ignore okinawa where people's diet is 60% sweet potato and average life expectancy for men 80+ years, women 87+ years, and that has one of the highest number of people 100yo+?

i just can't follow the logic of keto people

if carbs are so bad

why do these people live so long?

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I’m not defending keto :) sorry if it looked like that. I’m not on a keto diet myself.

wow, you wrote a long thread simply to... defend keto?

why?

why can't you just accept that keto has no scientific proof of working long term and that it is an unnecessary self-inflicting suffering that can also have negative effects?

the post is about keto hypocrisy aiming at making people read research nothing more

See, it's not just about the sweet potato. 

Blue zones live in distinctly different ways than modern 'man' in their modern concrete boxes, alone. 

Blue zones live: 
- in proximity to friends, family 
- to markets where they buy fresh food daily (exercise)
- that they cook themselves (work, responsibility, routine)..

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he probably is, the effects kick in later in life (like at 40-60+)

keto is sometimes but funny but man I had a coworker on the carnivore diet and sometimes wonder if that dude is still alive…

I'm suggesting that keto (/low carb diets) is actually more about avoiding processed and ultra processed carbs - pasta, breads etc. Which have low nutritional value and also cause glucose spiking.

did you just try to equate okinawan diet with keto to... protect keto?

is okinawan diet a keto diet... with carbs?

i have real troubles understanding your logic, can you elaborate, please?

It may have more to do with avoiding processed and ultra processed carbs tho. If you avoid those (as keto people do, and maybe okinawa people?), then the carbs that you do intake from fresh veg and fruit etc are likely okay / good for you.

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hmmmm let's see, somebody posted a longevity post about okinawa, their diet and life expectancy

what should we recommend to that person?

yes!

the blue zones!

surely they don't know about it!

— is this how your thought process went?

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going vegan was one of the best things i did too

i now feel superior to all people who are not vegan

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I think a couple of not easily quantifiable factors, such as a tight knit community and support network also play a significant role in their high life expectancy, that said, my partner is vegan and since I started eating mostly what she eats I feel 100x better

> Keto ppl are the ppl for whom keto work well

if you look at the research, you will change this to "keto ppl are the ppl who *think* keto works well for them"

in reality they just suffer for no reason (and probably make their health worse due to the lack of nutrients)

Keto ppl are the ppl for whom keto work well

Ppl are different. There’s no one true diet.

(Except going hungry sometimes. That’s good for everyone)

These are my principles. If you don't like them, well, I have others

That’s why it’s a short reset when I need to shake things up. Otherwise I target balanced macros 90% of the year.

why low fat though?

why not just eat a balanced diet?

I'm a fan of High Carb, Low Fat for short term diet reset. Reheated potatoes have that good resistant starch that helps the gut biome.

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Imagine that like the carbs are bad. But the sweet potato part is soooo good it cancels out the bad and makes it good

these are... mutually exclusive statements...

What if carbs are bad but sweet potato fries are the elixir of youth

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https://www.sloww.co/ikigai-book/ summary here, but highly suggest reading the whole thing as always!

The book “ikigai” describes some of the (non dietary) reasons why okinawans may live so long. It’s a good read!

weirdly, okinawans are super big on pork which is one of the less healthy meats