Historycaster: I bounce back and forth between the Venetians and the Burgundians as the most important European civilization that most educated people today don't have much exposure to.

Historycaster: I bounce back and forth between the Venetians and the Burgundians as the most important European civilization that most educated people today don't have much exposure to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy

I'm familiar with Burgundy superficially, but what's the case for them being more significant than Venice?

Would argue it really depends where you went to school. French Lycées globally would disagree.

Tempted to troll a little here. If you’d cast the net differently you’d have to include the Engels