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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Strong opinion, strongly held: If you're a pre-product market fit startup hiring product people, you're doing it wrong. Product people have a time and place. Just not before PMF.
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@king
What are product people?
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sean
@swabbie.eth
founders are the PMs, whether they like it or not.
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kevin
@kevinoconnell
Just wondering, how do you all deal with the issue of scope creep? I’d imagine having a full engineering team leads to this sometimes (maybe im wrong though)
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limes
@limes.eth
Dan when a product person applies to Warpcast
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Syed Shah🏴‍☠️🌊
@syed
Also product people are basically founders as AI accelerates decreasing technical gaps. Strong opinion, strongly held: We're going to see a loot more startups.
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@rish
100%
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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
I mostly agree as a product person. This is sort of why over last year I’ve found myself doing consulting and advising work. since I want to make an help on early stage things, helping founders in more limited capacity
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@abe
Makes perfect sense when the founders have product experience. But when that isn’t the case, they’d need someone to help with product. They’d be losing precious time without it. While most tech companies have founding team members with that background (thru prod or eng), it wouldn’t be unusual if some don’t.
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Tayyab - d/acc
@tayyab
Dan is right about this, it’s true in most scenarios. But as with all rules in startups, it’s important to know when to bend/break them :)
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Mac Budkowski ᵏ
@macbudkowski
Agree, founders should own the product. And if they have some knowledge gaps they can always hire consultants/advisors/coaches
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@nixon
It depends of the nature of your product and how fast do you want to run test and iterate. B2C startups maybe need more like a UX researcher for speeding up the discovery phase and put some framework on place. But for B2B business I totally agree that founders are the one doing this
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Deniz 🧿
@deniz
I'm product person and agree with you.
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casslin.eth
@casslineth
Agree. Same goes for BD/Marketing person
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@stas
Product dev here and I think there's exceptions even to the strongest held opinions 🥲
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Evalir
@evalir
A million times yes. Agreed.
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Alex Palmer
@thatalexpalmer.eth
+1,000 We’re onboarding engineers this week tho 👀 We all code. Thoughts on sales and BD? I run that and intend to. But am aware of my gaps.
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@4484
slightly disagree. good product people help find PMF quicker by ideating on what works and communicating with early users.
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@monishkumar
What if the founder has domain expertise but is focused on bridging the gap between the problem and solution? Don’t product people help with that?
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Steen!!!
@usersteen.eth
Makes sense...what's your hiring order of operations?
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