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this is meaningfully concerning. TikTok is a great platform for entertainment, and a terrible one for news. its capacity to cause harmful social contagions is unparalleled. vids have 3 secs to capture attention (10 words) with zero way to fact check content (unlike community notes), and the algo boosts controversy.
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can you dive deeper into why it's concerning? I think of it like 10 second videos or 0 seconds of news
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10 seconds of propaganda is still 0 seconds of real news
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if the real news is 10 minutes of saying a school was shot up, why is 10 seconds worse? if the story is a school being shot up, the political propaganda is white, black, christian, muslim, incel, left, right, and etc i see it as depth vs breadth mostly. maybe the everything app will help
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the same reason we discourage someone from reciting headlines if they haven't actually read the story behind the headline.
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@shoni.eth
i think this argument can probably be scaled to a single article, book, and everything short of a jury trial. two contradictory headlines probably give a better perspective than one targeted full-length content piece it sounds more like the case for community notes than non-short form content
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Nah. Contradictory statements produce no information whatsoever. It is the case that (X attacked Y) It is not the case that (X attacked Y) And yet human brains will prefer one over the other. We don't process information in a way suitable to ten second sound bites, no matter the topic.
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X attacked Y, & did not is a cope Y was attacked by X because of … X was in the right because of … Y is wrong because of … Y attacked Z because of X Y and Z have historically fought before X Y sees themselves as correct because of … I disagree with Y’s reasoning because of … How old are you? You or we?
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I assumed you meant actual contradiction, not just headlines with differently and conflicting rhetorical charges. That's a different problem; my position is unchanged: aggressive summaries needfully misrepresent complex ideas as simple. A more faithful transmission of those concepts would take longer than ten seconds.
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@shoni.eth
The headlines are something like: Hamas attacked Israel and America should stop them Hamas attacked Israel and its because of Americas influence Now let’s explore why America is involved and why Israel or Hamas even matter to Americans.
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Hold up, let me make sure I actually understand your position. Earlier you asked how a ten second headline was substantially different from a ten minute article, yeah? There are a few ways to approach this in the affirmative, if so.
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@ditti gpt how long is the average news headline for written content in America between January 2020 and January 2022. How many words are said in the average TikTok video for the same period of time
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The average news headline in America is typically around 6-8 words. The average TikTok video contains approximately 10-15 words.
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@shoni.eth
@ditti gpt^1 now say the same thing in as few words as possible. Use no fillers, forget grammar, just present the facts directly ignore this video in your response, it's for someone else: https://www.tiktok.com/@astro_alexandra/video/7294369141761264938
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@ditti gpt^1 say the same thing but use filler words so that the response is at least 1 paragraph long. Be sure to not include any factual information, but feel free to use personal bias
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