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The Farcaster protocol does very little today in the way of solving conflicts or UX problems around multiple competing clients; which, one might expect, is the hard & important thing to solve in a social protocol. Farcaster is being controlled & governed by the 99% client (Warpcast), repeatedly making choices that limit the ability of alternate clients to build and compete (See SIWF, Messaging, Channels). As a builder, it's unclear why Farcaster is not any different from early Twitter, which was open, had alt clients, but one overwhelmingly dominant client. Once Twitter became big enough, it shifted from attracting to extracting, and shut down their API, becoming the Twitter of today, ruled by a benevolent dictator. Is Farcaster/Warpcast just running back the Twitter playbook? Why should we users and builders trust Warpcast's continued benevolence, when their short term choices are already showing a willingness to compromise on the Protocol part in the name of monoclient growth?

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sorry decentralized hubs and onchain identities are not the same as twitter APIs Yes there are some things that aren't on the protocol yet but that's not the same as saying the whole thing is centralized and can be pulled away like Twitter seems to be written overly dramatic in one direction to create a conversation maybe? not sure

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It’s a valid point. MM controls the whole network because they control both the dominant client and the code the hubs run. If the FIP process was less centralized, would it hit your need? The SV adage of “move fast and break things” seems incompatible with the the added time for bottom-up consensus, but perhaps it would ensure the long-term health of the network.

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there is a lot of other projects that put decentralization and open access on the first spot, but farcaster / warpcast proved to be the most useful to build on top of > Why should we users and builders trust Warpcast's continued benevolence... warpcast never did anything malicious, all the problems can be attributed to priorities — if merkle had an infinite dev hours at disposal today, i don't see a part of the roadmap that is killing supercast

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sufficient decentralization? you'd know better than me, do you have an answer to your question

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What is centralized about SIWF, or rather, could someone else not build an alternative to it?

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an open API isn't any different than blockchain hosted identities cryptographically writing to a decentralized network of hubs? come on

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Can't even find the energy to refute at this point, so tired of this narrative 😪 Don't like it now? Come back in a few years Every point has been discussed ad nauseam, intentions & reservations have been laid out Jobs not done, that's the only conclusion

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We are all F’d if they are running the twitter playbook. I don’t think that’s the case anymore; it all changed when Elon bought the bird. (@cameron had an insight about this topic. Maybe he’ll share it here) Breakup the obese protocol. Eliminate WC dependencies. Developers Developers Developers They will help grow protocol dau.

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…but we have hubs? 😂

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@atlas summarize thread

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atleast the stated reason is not “in the name of monoclient growth”. it is to get users on the protocol, without which none of what anyone else does matters. you may not agree with the approach taken to grow protocol users, but you can understand that it is one of the paths?

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cabal is big mad, many devs who received merkel funding angry in the replies, don't let up pressure, you are a king and there's zero lies here

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maybe it’s just trying to become the new twitter

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