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@darrylyeo
Svelteâs ecosystem is huge because itâs trivial to adapt vanilla JavaScript things. (Itâs about to become even easier when Svelte 5 drops this April!) In React, everything has to be wrapped or rewritten in terms of React providers and hooks â itâs practically a different programming language.
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Ugh, I don't wanna be the guy that is just constantly defending React (it's not that great, tbh), but _everything_? I'm using vanilla viem in a React project. Plus all the other go-to libs like lodash, zod, etc. > itâs practically a different programming language React has a learning curve, but it's really just JS.
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Fair â I should clarify I mean âeverythingâ that gets consumed at the component level. At some point or another, any JavaScript reference used for component state has to be adapted to follow the laws of React hooks. Everything up until that point or outside the component realm is indeed just vanilla JS đ
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React hooks are where React becomes a different programming language. The usual JavaScript conventions around mutability, closures and scoping are completely thrown out the door because a render function has to run over and over. I canât tell at a glance which JavaScript references persist across renders.
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We just went from implying you can't use vanilla JS libs in React and that it's so different from anything else that it's basically not JS, to: If you need to use the state hook, you have to use hooks. React's state management and lifecycle method handling is not as good as other frameworks. You could just say that.
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