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Colin
@colin
TIL Patreon's estimated revenue in 2021 is $160m, and Substack's is $11.9m. Anecdotal but I don't know anyone using Patreon yet know tons on Substack. Would have assumed less of a delta.
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Yaroslav⚡️
@yar0x
has anyone bumped on patreon’s creators breakdown by field? like musicians, game devs, social activists etc
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@pugson
patreon is full of people who are creative rather than just talk about the SF tech bubble from their lake tahoe property
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Ben Scharfstein
@scharf
I’m surprised at the delta but in the other direction. Very few people want to read. Subscription for long form text content is ngmi. Patreon is flexible in what and how you monetize.
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Mac Budkowski ᵏ
@macbudkowski
Patreon has been huge for YT creators and more people watch videos than read essays so I guess that's the reason. I'm also surprised at the scale of delta though
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@futureartist
Now do OnlyFans
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Chad
@cwe
Meanwhile onlyfans is about $5b
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Ivy
@ivy
patreon has been around way longer + there's still a lot of the 'substack is where nazis can post' stuff around
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Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
@moar Patreon opinions
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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
Not surprising. Niche media is way bigger than the single niche of tech writing that Substack has most captured
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Ryan Rodenbaugh
@ryanrodenbaugh.eth
Don't forget OnlyFans in this mix.
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Daniel Keller
@dak
Patreon still big with a certain type of podcaster
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@michaelcjoseph
I think part of the problem are the products' user bases. Substack has a huge free writer base, and they think of it as just a platform to manage their free newsletter on. Patreon is used by people planning to charge their community and can be flexibly applied to any type of community. Much larger opportunity.
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antimo 🎩
@antimofm.eth
Patreon has a 4 year headstart over Substack (Gumroad has 6, thos figures are interesting too)
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Les Greys
@les
I feel like this is an observation if that. https://warpcast.com/les/0xad73cf
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derek
@derek
The real question is 2023. Post-pandemic I suspect that the creator economy is moving toward equilibrium instead of growth. A reckoning is coming in the form of a flatline. Not death but stagnation.
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@tpan
Interesting, wonder what Patreon's 2023 rev is? and putting rate of rev growth between the two side by side? (Y1, 2, 3, etc.) Also, Patreon is broader use case for creators. I remember paying to enter a Discord via Patreon.
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Ayush
@ayushm.eth
Patreon's ceo is a baller btw 🔥🔥 his old yt channel - https://www.youtube.com/@Jackconte
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@petar
I’ve been supporting people through Patreon for the past couple of years. It’s def a popular platform.
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Kevin Newman
@kevinnewmanyo
Every big comedian uses Patreon
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