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Colin @ FarCon
@colin
TIL Patreon's estimated revenue in 2021 is $160m, and Substack's is $11.9m. Anecdotal but I don't know anyone using Patreon yet know tons on Substack. Would have assumed less of a delta.
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@0xen
been waiting on web3 patreon for a long while now
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@yar0x
has anyone bumped on patreon’s creators breakdown by field? like musicians, game devs, social activists etc
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@thumbsup.eth
These patronage businesses take too big of a cut. I was with BuyMeACoffee when I started blogging and it was awesome that a lot of people wanted to support but between PayPal and BMaC I was getting like $3.5 of every $5.
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@pugson
patreon is full of people who are creative rather than just talk about the SF tech bubble from their lake tahoe property
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@macbudkowski
Patreon has been huge for YT creators and more people watch videos than read essays so I guess that's the reason. I'm also surprised at the scale of delta though
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Ben Scharfstein
@scharf
I’m surprised at the delta but in the other direction. Very few people want to read. Subscription for long form text content is ngmi. Patreon is flexible in what and how you monetize.
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@ccarella.eth
I have paid multiple Patreon creators but I have never paid for a Substack. I think that’s the delta, lots of freemium on Substack, extremely limited freemium on Patreon.
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@cwe
Meanwhile onlyfans is about $5b
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@futureartist
Now do OnlyFans
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@tpan
Interesting, wonder what Patreon's 2023 rev is? and putting rate of rev growth between the two side by side? (Y1, 2, 3, etc.) Also, Patreon is broader use case for creators. I remember paying to enter a Discord via Patreon.
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@derek
The real question is 2023. Post-pandemic I suspect that the creator economy is moving toward equilibrium instead of growth. A reckoning is coming in the form of a flatline. Not death but stagnation.
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@les
I feel like this is an observation if that. https://warpcast.com/les/0xad73cf
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@antimofm.eth
Patreon has a 4 year headstart over Substack (Gumroad has 6, thos figures are interesting too)
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@keccers.eth
Patreon as I understand it, is not a well managed business CEO lacks vision and is distracted by bright and shiny, resulting in shipping nothing bc of thrash And lots of interpersonal issues like the discrimination lawsuit https://twitter.com/parismartineau/status/1617914123135881217
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@michaelcjoseph
I think part of the problem are the products' user bases. Substack has a huge free writer base, and they think of it as just a platform to manage their free newsletter on. Patreon is used by people planning to charge their community and can be flexibly applied to any type of community. Much larger opportunity.
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@dak
Patreon still big with a certain type of podcaster
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@ryanrodenbaugh
Don't forget OnlyFans in this mix.
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@cameron
@moar Patreon opinions
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@ivy
patreon has been around way longer + there's still a lot of the 'substack is where nazis can post' stuff around
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