Cameron Armstrong on Warpcast

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“AI art has nothing to tell me about people” Good thread on the dance between the artist and the viewer I don’t agree with all, but art for me is about appreciating choices. The more choices the computer makes, the less I can appreciate the human. https://x.com/kenthecowboy_/status/1876164708799230013?s=46

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fwiw I'm not gatekeeping the definition of art with this cast. It's about why I'd rather search for hints of signal in human messages vs hallucinate signal in the noise machine.

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throwing in my weird consequentialism https://warpcast.com/na/0x4d2020fd

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It's on X, so I didn't read the thread. But to me, AI art is a true collab between human and machine. It's when an AI model is trained or built by the artist for their specific creations, or when an artists really uses AI to cocreate something. For me, the prime example is @sashastiles. But in the second category @leonfaesulis did some fun work with sentiment analysis and image creation based on his poetry. Despite many of these projects, we still tend to think too one-dimensional about AI art. But given the last sentence of the quoted tweet, that might be the point of the thread.

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You're mostly right , but I feel the creativity comes into place with prompt engineering, if you can picture something and describe it properly and the AI executes that vision perfectly , maybe artist documenting their prompt engineering process might give you another point of view regarding this.

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My feelings on it are complicated. 😆 I think AI art does tell you something about people. It pulls from a collective of experiences and its guided by a user for whom the input and results resonated. And the tool can be used to produce art...not just through iterations of prompts. I suspect that when photography first arrived on the scene, artists also said "it tells me nothing about the person" and "it involves no creativity". However, context, lighting, placement, emotion...all of that conveys something. And the counter to that - I worry that AI art can take away a valuable part of the creative process, rendering it unnecessary. It can arrive at a beautiful, but unintended conclusion that the creative may have never arrived at...and I can't help but feel sadness at the loss of that process. Like I said, my feelings on it are a bit of a jumbled mess. 😆

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Very good point! Art is really about person's own taste which they perfected through the years of their life. Doesn't matter if you don't like their taste, there would certainly be someone who will, and that's why I love art :)

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I'd say when used the right way AI is just another tool in the hands of an artist. what makes it different from a brush is that a normal person can create something good enough to be confused with art too.

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if youre running stable diffusion locally, providing your own models, developing your own style, editing, reworking, blah blah blah i think there is validity to it. if its just you prompting dall-e thats not really art, but it could be useful for certain things in which real art is not required.

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Hypothetically, what would it take for you to appreciate the computer?

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Purely generative art tells me nothing about people but it's still compelling I think.

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Kinda reminds me of when I was in middle school and there was a heated debate among my drawing peers about whether tracing is considered art.

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Well said Cameron. there’s something magical about seeing the human hand in the work, the choices and imperfections that make it personal.

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Have some good reading on this https://www.culture3.com/posts/claire-silver-on-why-taste-is-the-new-skill-and-the-future-of-ai-driven-culture

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Your cast is making waves! It's been curated by @femmie and showcased on https://casterbites.com. Keep inspiring the Farcaster community! Remember, any Farcaster user can send and vote for the best casts of the day

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