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Two of the four (MAGA) companies are Seattle-based. Yet Seattle has never developed the startup ecosystem flywheel like SV. Why do you think that is?
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The thing to come to mind is poison the mind somewhere. This is an extremely biased view that I am open to idea stems from poison.
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You could point to things like more VCs in SFBA, plus better universities like Stanford. Also a longer, deeper history: HP, Shockley/Fairchild, Intel, etc. My personal experience: Seattle did not have an intense, ambitious culture. Too laid back, not enough risk-taking.
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my gut is that it’s a vicious cycle… Boeing being the original anchor is an issue because aerospace was more gov funded than VC, and a different culture runaway dominance by M+A is bad for the startup ecosystem because it increases costs of talent and office space, making it harder for green shoots to pop up
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Imo, startups follow the money and there is more expansive VC infrastructure in SV than in Seattle.
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Gotta be stupidly optimistic all the time to run a startup. Seattle weather is not conductive to this. Also, neither MSFT nor AMZN have the same kinda disruptive culture Google did. Also also, Stanford has better biz, tech, and network than UW.
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Apparently having giant tech companies local is less important than you’d think. They seem to be a consequence, not a cause, of a thriving startup ecosystem.
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Nicholas Moy
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Maybe the factors leading to the biggest, most successful companies ($1T) are just super uncommon in general. They don’t correlate much with the startup creation flywheel, which seems to be much better at creating $1-10B companies that get acquired.
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There’s a bit of vicious cycle at play, but having lived in Seattle one thing I noticed is that there’s not a huge number of people who want to move out there. Moving to Seattle elicited the same reaction from people that I imagine moving to Minneapolis would.
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different status games. the end outcome isn’t to start your own thing sf has network effects - there’s probably more founders from those two companies based in SF than in seattle weather & hobbies matter
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1) Non-competes are enforceable in WA but not in CA. 2) Seattle is generally a less social place than SV; less serendipity
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