Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I am noticing that the most successful new ideologies of the past decade are very object-level (prescriptions on specific issues) and quite little meta-level (social processes for making decisions on object-level issues). Examples: * Abstract libertarianism feels much weaker than 10 years ago. But issue-specific versions of it are quite successful: YIMBY (housing), the crypto space * e/acc (it's about all technology in theory, but ends up being about AI in practice) * The largest cluster in effective altruism morphed from being meta-level ("think harder to making sure your donations are going where they can do the most good!") to object level (AI safety, with a little bit of animal welfare and global public health) * Longevity movement Maybe network states and Glen and Audrey's Plurality movement are two exceptions - but in general the above feels like a strong pattern. Any ideas why this meta level -> object level shift seems to be taking place?
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Jason Crawford
@jasoncrawford.eth
Is it a shift, or has this always been the case?
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
2010 did not feel this way to me! There definitely were issue-specific movements (eg. anti-copyright), but the larger balance was toward abstract stuff. Even the Pirate Party felt the need to try to stretch anti-copyright into a more holistic vision for society (UBI, publicly funded art/research, direct democracy etc)
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Bob Peace
@bobpeace
everything has gotten bigger, so there needs to be an inverse relationship in micro society to balance that out in my opinion 
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