six
@six
career wise i think i'm a bit cooked on delayed gratification psychologically, esp. of the variety of like working/iterating on a startup for multiple years in stealth and/or without traction. not sure if i'm capable of doing that, but to an extent the ability to do that is what is required for outsized success would posit this is somewhat consistent in the "brain" of our generation, esp with startup / build-in-public / twitter founder "cracked" culture becoming so widespread, it is v contrarian and perhaps psychologically difficult to quitely grind and stay focused for years on something you believe in. think many founders currently in 20s prob compensate for this by getting validation via attention, while they wait for validation via market (the real thing). shayne coplan good exception imo.
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agusti
@bleu.eth
working for years without pmf is just dumb or fucking your investors. nobody cares about our experiments until they’re proved
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six
@six
sure but you have to work for a while to prove them, very few startups find pmf in the first couple years
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agusti
@bleu.eth
right but then just pivot faster and go to market faster to prove assumptions unless you’re building hardware which limits a lot the speed at which you can iterate but for software? u should
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six
@six
this is all still the same thing of working for a while without market validation imo, which is my core point - "pivot faster" doesn't magically mean you will find pmf faster, if it were that easy more startups would be successful
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