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what if communism is inevitable on a long enough timeline, it’s just the flavor of the inevitable communism that changes depending on the initial inputs start out communist, it’s a very strong and oppressive flavor: always(?) start out capitalist and maybe the communism flavor that arrives is some kind of weird amalgamation (fully automated luxury communism or some other strange flavor, maga communism(?))
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I was attending a seminar on AI and future trends yesterday. The keynote speaker (from the US) emphasized the growing divide between asset owners and labor providers So pretty much what Marx wrote three volumes about some 140 years ago, during the previous Industrial Revolution Time is a flat circle, nihil novi sub sole, etc
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Yep it wasn't about capitalism per se as a system but the inherent contradictions of large scale peak capitalism and how it exploits the workers
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For all the flak that Keynes is taking from the Austrian economics bros, there’s something to be said about having a healthy, robust consumer class (≈ the middle class if you plot disposable income onto a bell curve). Yet automation has taken away many of their physical jobs in the late 1800s and throughout the 1900s. Now it’s doing the same to creative jobs, and it’s threatening cognitive jobs in the near term too. I try to be an optimist but it’s hard to ignore the risk of self-cannibalization of the entire system eventually (a vicious cycle of unemployment / impoverishment and dwindling demand leading to more job losses)
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it feels like ubi for middle class to keep them as the -consuming- part of the equation who the fuck is gonna buy their shit if not
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It would be quite ironic if the survival of capitalism depended on governments providing universal and unconditional handouts to the unemployed masses displaced by AI, just so that said masses could keep spending in favor of the oligarch class who automated them away. AKA privatize profits & socialize the debt
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I mean look at how long that's all ready been happening. The welfare state is an attempt to fight the contradictions in capital, the problem is exactly that that it privatizes profit and socializes the losses, especially in a late stage capitalist society where the capitalist class is clinging to the government (government subsidize, tax breaks/loopholes)
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That’s why I don’t casually dismiss as being an edgy, bad-taste joke Curtis Yarvin’s comment that the late underclass would be of greater societal value if distilled into biodiesel
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O wow I was unfamiliar with that take of his
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Yep. Now’s the time to pay close attention to the men behind the curtain
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mfw i pay close attn to those absolute power mfers being absolutely corrupted
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