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a thought this morning: assuming Zora & Rodeo’s ‘creative social’ model aims to reach more normies, it will always stay a place for creators/artists posting pictures of their own work only OR photos that people take themselves of non-copyrighted material. Web2 socials brush the question of copyrighted material under the carpet most of the time and ppl mostly just accept it because the person posting isn’t making money from the post. For eg) I can post photos of an exhibition I went to without any backlash on Instagram. If I were to do the same on Zora or Rodeo, and earn money from a photo of an artists work on display, this could quickly involve commercialised copyright issues. So posting certain forms of content on these platforms is defacto limited. If the apps do indeed scale one day to involve millions of users that aren’t aware of these legalities, how would these platforms respond? wondering if anyone else has thought about this.

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Web3 platforms will eventually have billions of users, but these platforms will not look like tumblr or ig. If your roadmap is a (25 cent) social media platform you are ngmi. To answer the question, post whatever you want. People will only buy it if they feel you have enough rights (no one buys copyminted work etc). Ideally in the specific case the gallery/museum would negotiate rights with artists and post official versions which could be collected, but most trad art orgs are probably 10+ years away from embracing these ideas. Influencers have generally been replaced by artists/builders etc. No one wants the unofficial social media post of the artwork, they want the artwork (directly) 💫

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that may be what we want ideally from the small community we see today, but with billions of users, people we post copyrighted material all the time and people will mint it unknowingly. like it’s actually illegal for me (or anyone) to post a picture of an exhibition i went to on instagram lol but no one cares about that in web2. but if the photo is minted and i start making significant money from that post whilst the artist in the exhibition doesn’t… then yeah, people will start to have issues. problem is: people don’t KNOW that posting a photo of an exhibition on instagram is illegal. they don’t know copyright law, why would they? so it’s a slippery slope

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There's legality, but enforcement is often where you should focus. Many things are illegal, but can't be enforced. Most Web 2.0 content is financially worthless, snapshots, etc, no one pay will for it. I'm sure rights issues will come up occasionally, but if someone has found a new way to substantially monetize, there should be enough to go around for all to be happy. The museum, patron, curator, collector, artist, viewer, sharer, critic, historian, etc can all add value. How do you create systems that fairly reward all providing value?

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yes abolutely! which is why i mentioned Zora and Rodeo as they are today are mostly likely only geared for artists and creators of their own content. i post tons of exhibition shots on my Instagram but i couldn't do that on Zora/Rodeo with good conscience. so i can only post my shitty lil' images i create that get no mints 😂 and that's ok with me! ahahah but not a model that can scale to billions of users, i imagine

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I guess some solutions could be to create a platform for that sort of image (connecting the physical to the blockchain), work with museums/galleries to mint official images, onboard artists to upload works directly, all of which takes substantial time, or just post the images anyway (maybe with some creative change to make it fair use). I have a need to post promotional material to those platforms, but since there is the option to mint and purchase, I need to clear rights with artists, and at that point how do you justify having one mint be promotional for twenty five cents, and another being the artwork for a thousand? zora and rodeo aren't social media companies, which is why we aren't able to post to them the content that we have a need for. Since it's early times in Web3 the platforms that we need do not exist yet, and most likely we will not be able to envision what they will ultimately look like, but slowly we build! 💫

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