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Gabriel Ayuso
@gabrielayuso.eth
Frameworks and libraries are nice but I encourage everyone to try building with nothing but standard libs at least once. Most modern languages already come with good http libs, encoders/decoders, etc. so it's not too much work to setup an http server to handle requests, serving static files, json, etc. See how far you can get. Even on the client side you can just use standard dom manipulation and css.
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Ξric Juta
@ericjuta
good side effect is that it's gpt friendly maintenable code
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alec
@alecpap
if the point of the exercise is to get more familiar with stdlib, doesn't using an llm kind of defeat the purpose? or are you thinking of using the llm in a more conversational/rubber duck kind of way?
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Ξric Juta
@ericjuta
ai is a tool, it accelerates things frameworks are human created abstractions, sometimes the ai doesn't know every abstraction in its training data so sticking to stdlib as much as possible makes sense not using ai cause it's cheating is such a dated way of thinking, "ai shouldn't be used in schools and workplaces" someone still needs to verify its output is specification correct, that's an understanding/learning/discovery process in itself that being said, give a bad coder an acceleration tool, you get bad code ...faster
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alec
@alecpap
love how you ended that, lol. I may have misunderstood the intent of the original cast - im a big fan of using ai to help code! when using a thing that's new to me tho, i learn much fast, and retain more, if i read the manpage/docs vs get help from ai
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Ξric Juta
@ericjuta
<3 gmi I acc find it good for low level Qs to deep dive after skimming through the manpage claude has been great to generate mermaid diagrams for state flows to visual onboard, love that new artifacts feature some manpage/docs just don't have the right format to fit everyone's learning style
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