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@0xen
public ledgers, open source, DAOs, CC0 are all far left coded ideals. curious how the more right leaning crypto space squares these bedrock concepts.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Generate revenue.
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@0xen
strange bedfellows innit
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DAOs or user-owned networks are like cooperatives. Cooperatives can earn revenue. The distinction of capitalismā€™s versus socialismā€™s ā€œrevenueā€ is the profit incentive and who gets the profit. Especially because they also have the power over how the company is run (and in oligarchies, how the country is run) Donā€™t let anyone tell you that money, markets, or income has to be absent from leftist ideology; itā€™s a big tent. Leftist conception of these things, which as you mention is very much coded in line with the web3 weā€™re building, is about equitable distribution of surplus revenue and democratic control of the organizations. I donā€™t think people on the right understand the bogeyman they think theyā€™re fighting. Red scare propaganda and garbage propaganda like ā€œThe Little Black Book of Communismā€ built a wall of bias that even Gorbachev couldnā€™t tear down.
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> Red scare propaganda and garbage propaganda like ā€œThe Little Black Book of Communismā€ built a wall of bias that even Gorbachev couldnā€™t tear down. It's not little. 100 million dead. Ask anyone who has actually lived in a communist country how great it is. :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
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With that book's logic of "preventable deaths under the government with ___ ideology's policies", you could say capitalism killed dozens of billions. It's just a weird way of accounting. If we really want to use that definition for one ideology, we should apply it everywhere. The book is considered academically hollow but it has been used quite commonly by far right ideologists and politicians of course.
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You can say a lot of things but fact is that countless millions were killed, starved, and enslaved as a direct result of communist policies. It's an ideology that claims to be "humanitarian" but caused the most destruction to humanity in the 20th century (and has nothing to show for it)
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Serious question: what are the numbers for how many millions have been killed, starved, or enslaved under capitalism?
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https://warpcast.com/chainleft/0x66714a4e
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Except I guess the massive and rapid industrialization of Russia. Lifting millions out of poverty, rapidly building housing, providing education and food to people otherwise abandoned by the system, developing an incredible space program that forced the US to compete, all while being constantly forced to militarize by Western antagonism (both economic and military). And also you know the many socialist policies that make life in capitalist countries better like no child labour, maternity leave, 8 hour work days, sick leave, etc.
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